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On Hospitals Taking Newborn Babies From Their Mothers Due To Covid Policies

'Behind the Scenes' questions with baby Alex's grieving mother Cornelia Hertzler and baby Will's family lawyer Sue Grey

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On Hospitals Taking Newborn Babies From Their Mothers Due To Covid Policies

'Behind The Scenes' questions with baby Alex's grieving mother Cornelia Hertzler and baby Will's family lawyer Sue Grey

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At the top of this Newszine, full members of Radical Media will find an exclusive behind-the-scenes video conversation between Maajid Nawaz, the grieving mother of baby Alexander Cornelia Hertzler, and New Zealand case baby Will’s family lawyer, Sue Grey.

ALERT: Since airing this episode, the baby-kidnapping regime of Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand has fallen.

This members only segment was recorded after episode 39 of this week’s free Radical Show, in which We first speak to American mother Cornelia Hertzler, whose baby Alex died after the US hospital he was born in gave the child a vaccinated blood transfusion, contrary to the mother's explicit instructions and without her knowledge.

We then meet Sue Grey, the lawyer for the family of baby Will, who the state in New Zealand took custody of, after the child's parents refused a vaccinated blood transfusion. The state went ahead and gave the baby a blood transfusion without the parent's consent. Unlike baby Alex, baby Will survived and was eventually returned to his mother.

In both cases the parents had found alternative, unvaccinated blood donors via their own sources, but the state ignored this.

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Watch this behind-the-scenes video to hear both Baby Alexander’s grieving mother Cornelia Hertzler and Baby Will’s family lawyer Sue Grey, replying to our questions on the following:

Baby Alexander’s grieving mother Cornelia Hertzler:

1) Your baby Alexander received a vaccinated blood transfusion in hospital against your wishes, despite you having found unvaccinated blood. Your child then died. Remind us what precisely happened?

2) When you walked in on these doctors, what was the immediate conversation you had? Were you then aware that they were doing this? Did you say to them ‘we told you not to do this’? Explain to us how that then transpired.

3) Are you yet to receive any formal explanation whether verbal or written, as to why they completely disregarded your wishes about your own child and went ahead with a procedure? Have you received any formal explanation as to why they did this without your consent, or even informing you?

4) And, to the medical records, is it the case that suspiciously these medical records seem to have disappeared? You’re yet to be able to understand exactly what happened to baby Alexander because the hospital in which he died has yet to produce any medical records?

5) How long has it been since baby Alexander’s passing and you not being able to get these medical records?

6) And the third suspicious element here is that on the day the transfusion was done, you and your partner Ron - baby Alexander’s father - had found blood donors of your own choosing that you were assured from your own sourcing were not mRNA blood, they were at the blood bank, giving their blood, on the day that these doctors against your wishes?

7) And three of those bags, the blood donors that you sourced, three of those went missing?

8) So this sounds to me like a crime scene. They disregard the document you make them sign - promising they wouldn’t do what they then did without telling you . Then conveniently, the medical records go missing. And in the meanwhile, the blood goes missing that you had sourced, which was unvaccinated blood. That sounds to me like a crime scene. Should this not be a criminal investigation?

9) Since this happened, there has been another example in New Zealand with baby Will, where parents have tried to do what you tried to do, and the state decided to take the baby from their parents. When you heard about this, and if you saw the video of that incident, how did that make you feel?

10) Are you optimistic that people will learn from this experience or do you feel that people are trying to bury your experience and pretend it never happened?

Baby Will’s family lawyer Sue Grey

1) Please summarise the facts of baby Will’s case. What is it we’re talking about here, what’s happened?

2) Just on a human level, is it not the case that the state has just kidnapped a child from its family?

3) The reason I mention that word ‘kidnapping’ is because the New Zealand state already knew that precisely this procedure led to the death of another baby who this was done to, and yet went ahead with it anyway?

4) For me, there’s natural law, and there’s whatever the state says, and then there’s a Sovereign that sits above all of that, the One Source of all life, whichever language you wish to use, but certain things are just unpalatable. Certain things are just a violation of natural law. This for me strikes me as ultra vires, an illegitimate act, no matter what courts decides it. So on that note, just how evil do you think the Jacinda Ardern regime in New Zealand has become due to this Covid hysteria?

5) What can the public do? People in New Zealand, more so there than in the United Kingdom or even in the United States, but in New Zealand, in Australia and in Canada particularly, this has been a very harsh response by the state, how do people break through this without feeling at a loss, without feeling depressed, and completely demotivated because it’s such an uphill struggle to fight the state. If the state’s coming for children, how do we stop this?

6) Are you optimistic? Let’s not outsource our solutions to anything other than taking responsibility for ourselves, and is that perhaps the biggest victory in all of this? People are rediscovering their individual agency?


Below are some preview clips from the full show.

With baby Alexander’s grieving mother Cornelia Hertzler:

With New Zealand lawyer Sue Grey:

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