Lois Perry - Anti-Net Zero Campaigner & UK Director of Heartland Institute

Lois Perry - Anti-Net Zero Campaigner & UK Director of Heartland Institute

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On Thursday 9th January 2025 Radical’s Maajid Nawaz spoke with Lois Perry for the long form Premium Radical podcast.

As Executive Director UK/Europe for the Heartland Institute, Lois formerly resigned as Leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) and before that had been the founder of Car26, an organisation opposed to Great Britain’s headlong direction towards Net Zero by 2030.

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Lois Perry: “I was called a denier. You couldn't question the science. No one was ever allowed on television who had a different view…It was an official BBC News policy…normal journalistic integrity rules, guidelines, Ofcom, is that if you have someone on talking about a particular issue, you have to have somebody else on that doesn't agree, the balance element. But what happened was Tony Blair removed that necessity for anything to do with Net Zero. So they could just say CO2 causes climate change, and it didn't have to be contested.”

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After the free preview and in the premium section of this podcast, Lois also discusses her reasons for resigning as Leader of UKIP, including for disagreeing with (stagename)Tommy Robinson.

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Maajid Nawaz: “They wanted Tommy Robinson in UKIP?”

Lois Perry: “yeah..they were talking about an official connection. I said, absolutely no way, Jose. But then I found out that back-channeling was going on, that they were talking to him behind my back. And that's not...I think the thing is, if I'd been 100%, which I wasn't, I'd just been literally near death, I might have had the balls...to challenge it. Maybe not, I don't know. But I wasn't. But no one was taking any notice of me. They clearly wanted to go to this extreme right anti-Islam ideology, which I would no way was that happening under my leadership. And I didn't have the strength or the energy to fight it. And I made the decision to step down as leader because, number one, my health wasn't up to it. And number two, they clearly wanted to go down that path. That's what they wanted. And that is not me. That is not me. And it's not Nigel Farage either. It's neither of us.”

Maajid Nawaz: “So, because Nigel Farage left UKIP over this very same thing?”

Lois Perry: “Yeah, same thing.”

Our interview covered Lois’ view on Reform Party UK Leader Nigel Farage.

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Lois Perry: “I think Reform are... The reason they're doing so well is they're picking up disillusioned voters from the Conservative side and the Labour side. They're standing up for the things that... They're giving a voice to the silent majority, you know, the people who are concerned about, you know, mass uncontrolled immigration, the people who are concerned about, for example, little girls being systematically raped, they can't afford to pay their energy bills because of a net zero ideology, the people that are concerned about enforced medical treatments. They are standing up for ordinary people with ordinary concerns across the spectrum on the left and the right. And I do believe, I mean, just look at the speeches that are being made in Parliament now, you know, from Nigel, Rupert Lowe, Tice, Lee Anderson, You know, the kind of things they're standing up and saying, those things weren't being said in Parliament before. We had a uniparty system.”

And discussed Lois’ view on President Trump’s energy policies.

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Lois Perry: “…In America, it's fantastic. You've got Donald Trump standing up saying it's a scam. You know, we're going to continue fracking, you know, wind turbines and all of that stuff is nonsense and has to be heavily subsidised. He's reversing the whole petrol and diesel bans and not subsidising electric vehicles. I mean, he's really going for it. America... America pay eight times less for their energy than we do, right? Eight times. And that's because they frack. And also because when Donald Trump scraps all this green nonsense, you know, their energy will probably get even cheaper.”

We also covered to Lois’ concerns about digital currency and technocracy:

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Lois Perry: “And if you've got a smart meter, sorry, just going back into that, they can just switch that off as well. It can be, it's remote, remotely, literally remotely controlled. And if all money, again, we talked about this once before in an interview that we did together. If all money is digital, you know, there's no cash, then you're going to behave yourself, aren't you? If all of the money is coming from the government and all of this is being done in either the name of net zero or COVID. I mean, the whole getting rid of cash thing was a COVID thing, wasn't it?”

In addition, we asked about the future of Lois’ work with Heartland UK and her anti-Net Zero activism.

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Lois Perry: “I believe a massive part of..what I am doing, is showing how things could be here if we get rid of the wokeism, get rid of net zero policy, focus on free trade and capitalism and entrepreneurialism and freedom of personal autonomy, taking responsibility, all of those things, that American razzmatazz, which they've now got Trump in the White House, I want to do and I will be doing for the Heartland here. So I've got a lot of fantastic people that are going to be working alongside me. One of the wonderful women that's going to be working alongside me is Catherine McBride, who is an economist and an extraordinarily clever woman who has shown me in obvious terms, how it's just complete economic suicide, what we're doing with the whole Net Zero agenda.”

Our conversation with Lois Perry is Radical Media’s fifth premium members’ podcast.

Our first was with American public commentator Sam Harris, which focused on Maajid Nawaz’s political objections to Sam Harris’ ongoing public support for the precedents sought by imposing Covid mandates.

Our second premium podcast raised epidemiological critiques to Covid mandates and was held with a signatory to the Great Barrington Declaration, Stanford’s Professor Jay Bhattacharya.

Our third podcast a personal and political exploration of World Council for Health Dr Tess Lawrie’s life and career to date.

Our fourth premium Radical podcast was with Dr Wilson Sy, who has published peer reviewed statistical analysis raising serious concerns about systemic euthanasia in the UK using end of life protocols, known as the Midazolam scandal.

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